The Balance problem(Try this one)

You have n balls identical in size and appearance but 1 is an odd weight (could be either light or heavy).

You have a set scales (balance) which will give 3 possible readings: Left = Right, Left > Right or Left < Right (ie Left and Right have equal weight, Left is Heavier, or Left is Lighter).

You have only 3 chances to weigh the balls in any combination using the scales. Determine which ball is the odd one and if it's heavier or lighter than the rest. How do you do it?

Solve this problem for n =

1> 9
2> 12
3> 13 (Designed this myself)

7 Answers

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Athenes Analyst ·

Lets take n=10,

now divide the 10 balls into 2 sets of 3 balls and 1 set of remaining one ball.

Now say the odd ball is heavier than others (note this can be manipulated in future while weighing the balls whether the ood one is heavier or lighter)

Now select one set of 3 balls and place them in left side of the balance.
And then place the other sets of 3 balls on the right side

Following cases arise;

Case 1: both sides are equal when we place both the sets of 3 balls.
This means the odd one is the set with 1 ball. no need to carry out the third attempt!

Case 2: Left > Right each time we place the two sets of 3 balls.
This means the Odd ball is in the left side set. Now in the third attempt place any two balls of three on the sides of the balance with one ball each. Now if in this attempt whichever side is greater is odd one and if both are equal, then the third ball is Odd one.

Case 3: If we get Left is lesser than right in first attempt and both sides are equal in second attempt then, the set of three balls on the right side in first attempt contains the odd one. Then in the third attempt place any two balls of these three on the sides of the balance with one ball each. Now if in this attempt whichever side is greater is odd one and if both are equal, then the third ball is Odd one. And if first attempt makes equal and second attempt unequal then second attempt right side set has odd one then follow similar procedure!

Now If you have problem with my n=10. we can follow similar procedure with different number of balls in each set!

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Shaswata Roy ·

I do not think that is the proper analysis of the question .

Firstly have you not taken only 7 balls?

Secondly in the second case you assume that the left side is heavy but that is just not the case . The 3 balls on the right side can be light.

Thirdly n=9 ,n=12 and n=13 have got different(though a little bit similar) procedures of solving.

Hence rather than doing it with some arbitrary numbers try solving the problem with numbers 9,12 and 13.

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Athenes Analyst ·

You dint get it look i took 10 balls. I placed any 3 balls from them in left balance and kept them there until rest 6 of 7 balls are placed in right in 2 attempts! and then remaining 1 is never kept on balance!

1
Athenes Analyst ·

Yes in 2nd case they may be light but when other three balls are placed balance will show equal! Then we understand that its lighter situation not "heavier odd situation" ! Read that again!

I am not 100 percent sure that I got it ,rather I am 40-60 but what mistakes you pointed were actually not there!

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Shaswata Roy ·

Sorry for that .....actually I did not get what you were trying to say properly.

Still I would like you to solve the problem using 9,12 and 13 (especially 13 because that is the most interesting one).

1
Athenes Analyst ·

Yeah I'll just try and tell you! :)

11
Shaswata Roy ·

No one wants to give it a try?

Hint: divide 13 into 4,4 and 5 and then measure 4 and 4.

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