14-7-09 : prove f(x)=g(x)

The periodic functions f(x): R -> R and g(x): R -> R satisfy the condition:
lim (f(x)-g(x))=0 for all x ε R

Prove that f(x)=g(x) for every real number x

try to prove this. trust me it is really a good one.
must try

27 Answers

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Lokesh Verma ·

I think bhargav means this

The periodic functions f(x): R -> R and g(x): R -> R satisfy the condition:
lim (f(x)-g(x))=0 for all a ε R
x->a

Prove that f(x)=g(x) for every real number x

Bhargav can you confirm this?

39
Dr.House ·

i am sorry .

62
Lokesh Verma ·

bhargav.. not every one in the world is as smart as u :P

for students in class XII i am sure that not more than 1 in 1000 know tihs definition.

39
Dr.House ·

The proof uses the definiton that for every sub-sequence of the sequence, the limit tends to zero

isnt it obvious?

62
Lokesh Verma ·

In the proof of bhargav, the problem for most ppl will be that the definition of limits is not very obvious.

The proof uses the definiton that for every sub-sequence of the sequence, the limit tends to zero.... that is what he has used.

39
Dr.House ·

here`s a solution:

Suppose T1 and T2 are the periods of f and g respectively. For a fixed x lim(f(x+nT1)-g(x+nT1)) =0 as n->infinity, so lim g(x+nT1)=f(x) as n->infinity. By the same way lim f(x+nT2)=g(x) as n->infinity. We also have lim(f(x+nT1+nT2)-g(x+nT1+nT2)) =0 as n-> infinity, so lim(f(x+nT2)- g(x+nT1))=0 as n->infinity, but this limit is g(x)-f(x) (this is for a fixed x), so g(x)-f(x)=0 for any x.

39
Dr.House ·

sorry i slighly misunderstood the question myself.

KAYMANT SIR`S QUESTION IS RIGHT.

9
Celestine preetham ·

superb counter example sir

learnt a lot from this thread abt continuity and limits

this is a classic

62
Lokesh Verma ·

look at the functions

f(x) = 0

g(x) = 0 if x is not an integer and 1 otherwise

lim x-> a f(X)-g(x) = 0 for all values of a.

Hence the question that I guessed is incorrect :P

I guess Anant sir's question is the correct one :)

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Celestine preetham ·

sir but it seems so obvious ( i may be wrong also)

lim h(x) =0 for all x

now if there isnt a continuity at x

wont the limit at x→x+ and x→x- not exist ??

39
Dr.House ·

kindly wait till night.

66
kaymant ·

but that does not make it continuous.

9
Celestine preetham ·

but here
bhargav has given that lim exists for each and every point

66
kaymant ·

well I have seen a very similar problem, it goes:

Show that if f,g : R → R are continuous and periodic and lim_{x→∞} (f(x)-g(x))=0, then f=g.

I think this is what Bhargav means.

3
msp ·

hey bargave can u pls check the limit

66
kaymant ·

for a limit to exist at a point the function is not required to be continuous. in fact, it need not be defined at that point. consider as an example f(x)=(sin x)/x
What about the limit at x=0 where f is not even defined.

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Lokesh Verma ·

lim (f(x)-g(x))=0 for all x ε R

this statement is a bit vague

Bhargav has not given where x limits to !

I think what he has written makes not much sense mathematically

Bhargav can you check if you have missed out somthing!?

1
vector ·

fn can bear missing pt discontinuity n still the limit can exist

9
Celestine preetham ·

can u prove that ?

1
vector ·

for a limit to exist a fn need nt be cntinuous

9
Celestine preetham ·

if h(x) is not continuous then how does limit exist

66
kaymant ·

no celestine, your conclusion presupposes continuity of h(x) but that is not mentioned.

9
Celestine preetham ·

limh(x)=0 for all xεR

directly implies h(x)=0

66
kaymant ·

@ b555, I think the limit you are talking about should be x→∞. Additionally, the continuity of these functions are required as well. (I am saying so because provided these I have a proof.)

39
Dr.House ·

thats all the solution u have celestine?

9
Celestine preetham ·

let f(x)-g(x) = h(x)

39
Dr.House ·

yes edited. and ,ya, my name is bhargav` not bhargave``

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