20th_November_2008

Part 1: On a circle which circumscribes a n-sided polygon A1,A2,A3,.... An, a point M is taken. Prove that the sum of the squares of the distances from this point to all the vertices of the polygos is a number(independent of the position of the point M) What is this equal to?

Part 2: Prove that the sum of the squrares of the distances from an arbitrary point M, taken in the plane of a regular n-sided polygon A1,A2,A3,.... An, to all the vertices of the polygon, depends only upon the distance l of the point M from the center O of the polygon and find its value? in terms of R(radius of the circle circumscribing the n sided polygon.)

This is a problem that has come somewhere earlier (Will tell the source after the solution :)

16 Answers

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vibhav roy ·

do i use the eqn of circle. |z-z0|=r, where z0 is the centre and r is the radius

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Lokesh Verma ·

take z0 as zero.. it wont matter.. (will it?)

u can actually remove r aas well.. and later reintroduce it.. but that could be a bit confusing..

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vibhav roy ·

say I take the pt M to be x,y then I take the other pts to be x1 y1 x2 y2 and so on. then I take the sum of the distances as

d=√(x-x1)2+(y-y1)2and so on upto n then I will get on solving the underroot term

x2+y2+x12+y12+2xx1+2yy1=√2(r+xx1+yy1) am i on the right track

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Lokesh Verma ·

how about using something more..

we know that xi,y i lie on a circle

so there is something of the form reiθ

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Rohan Ghosh ·

answer of the first one =2na2
a=radius of circumscribing circle

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Rohan Ghosh ·

i proved it as follows =

let the random point be (acosθ,asinθ)

the points of the polygon can be written as of the form = (acos(2Ï€K/n),asin(2Ï€K/n))

where k varies from 1 to n

then the required sum is
Σa2((cosθ-cos(2πK/n))2+(sinθ-sin(2πK/n))2)

=2a2n -(a2)(2cosθΣcos(2πK/n) - 2sinθΣsin(2πK/n))

but from

(cosθ+isinθ)n=cosnθ+isinnθ

we have to find the sum of the roots of cosnθ=1

in the above expression we find that the coefficient of cosn-1θ =0

and we can express all the other terms as function of cosθ

hence sum of roots =coefficient of cos^(n-1)θ/coeff. of cos^nθ = 0

hence Σcos(2πK/n) = 0

similarly we can prove that Σsin(2πK/n)=0

hence we get the required sum as 2na2

by the above results it can be proven similarly the question below

its answer will come out to be =

n(l2+R2)

l=dist. of point form centre
R=circumscribing radius of polygon

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Lokesh Verma ·

Awesome dude :)

good work :)

I really wish u all the best.. these are not very easy problems.. good that u are ammunitioned enuf to handle these :)

I hope u are not one of the guys who gives up chem bcos they are good in maths and physics..

Good luck dear :)

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Celestine preetham ·

it dint seem as tough as u project it to be wen u use concept of vectors

ans is
Σ ( Z - ai )2 = Z2 + ai2 - 2Zai

Σ ai =0 (closed polgon)

ai2=z2=R2 as all lie on circle
hence ans is 2nR2

similarly when Z lies at dist l from O
ans is n( l2 + R2)

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Lokesh Verma ·

will it be ( Z - ai )2

or |Z - ai|2

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Celestine preetham ·

|Z - ai|2
kindly bear wit my vector notations

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Celestine preetham ·

|Z - ai|2
kindly bear wit my vector notations

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Lokesh Verma ·

Ur first expansion...
Σ ( Z - ai )2 = Z2 + ai2 - 2Zai

will not be true!!

it will be -Zai - Zai +Z2+ai2

wont it?

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Celestine preetham ·

im using vector algebra and not complex algebra

i think that expansion is correct if i write in detailed form as

|Z - ai|2 = |Z|2 + |ai|2 + 2Z.ai where Z annd ai are vectors

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Lokesh Verma ·

Sorry dude.. u are perfectly correct :)

I was too much into complex numbers.. U have a better solution than I had in my mind :)

Well done :)

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Celestine preetham ·

so
what is the source of this question

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Lokesh Verma ·

It is from a USSR math olympiad practice question! (But i found it very relevant to Complex.) (I did not want to use the word Olympiad bcos it scares away so many ppl)

U did a Better job to see vectors here :)

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