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Lokesh Verma
·2009-09-28 23:37:16
what you have found is elongation..
what is the question says is that you need to compress it so much that finally when the blue block recoils, it recoils so much that it pulls the green block along with itself..
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Philip Calvert
·2009-09-29 02:47:24
yeah i was feeling it was a touch odd... what a foolish one to make
I have made the edits above.... now please check
sorry for the trouble btw , the problem was I did this " on air " :D and that also in the afternoon when I am at my laziest best
and yes if there is still a mistake then u must abandon all hope that i will be able to arrive at the answer
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-09-29 02:43:57
There is still a smalll mistake which i din pick up on the first look..
The work energy equation you have used... (-ve sign)!!
U:sing all this, compile the final answer?
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Philip Calvert
·2009-09-29 02:39:28
Haha [9]
I was sleeping
The first is the same as
2F=kx-ky
kx=(2M+m)g(sin\theta +\mu cos\theta)
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-09-29 02:20:47
PHilip
look at the first equation more carefully...
It is nothign more than a linear equation :D :P
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Philip Calvert
·2009-09-29 01:16:34
what awesome?
just look at the equations, they are aweful...
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-09-29 01:11:40
yup.. this is a merger of 2 classical questions... :)
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-09-29 01:09:14
awesome..
but it is not as difficult as it seems..
go ahead and complete the thing :)
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eureka123
·2009-09-29 01:08:47
isnt thsi ques same as a ques asked a few days back in which everyhting was same except that blocks were on horz plane ??
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Philip Calvert
·2009-09-29 01:06:29
Let the required compression be 'x' :-
\frac{1}{2}kx^{2}=\frac{1}{2}ky^{2}+F(x+y)
where\;\: F=Mg\, sin\theta +\mu Mg\, cos\theta
such\; that\;\Rightarrow k.y=mgsin\theta +\mu mgcos\theta
Perhaps this is a bit too complex for the answer [7]
edit : corrected work energy eqn
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virang1 Jhaveri
·2009-09-28 23:35:27
Then.........
Sir could u tell me the green block has to leave contact with wat?
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-09-28 23:33:18
no virang i am afraid not...
You have not understood the problem correctly..
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virang1 Jhaveri
·2009-09-28 23:30:31
kx = Mgcosθ +mg/sinθ
x = (Mgsinθcosθ + mg)/kSinθ
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msp
·2009-09-28 09:06:47
sir may i know angle of inclination is known.
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virang1 Jhaveri
·2009-09-28 08:48:26
Sir wat is the angle of inclination?
Or
Is this a equilibrium position?
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$ourav @@@ -- WILL Never give
·2009-09-27 21:53:25
how can d green block loose contact??....i think it shuld hav been d blue block which leaves contact....