"CH bond is definitely more polar than CC .thus undergoes cleavage easier than CC . hope It's clear.-Srinath"
But the discussion was that CH is strongest....thats the answer sky gave as in her soln...
1.) the nodal plane in the pi bond of ethane is located in
a) the molecular plane
b) a plane perpendicular to the mol plane wich bisects the C-C σ-bond at right angle
c) a plane parallel to mol plane
d) a plane perpendicular to the mol plane wich contains the C-C σ-bond at right angle
2.)the strongest bond is...
a) C-C
b) C-H
c) C-N
d) C-O
(give reasons for ur answers..)
c-H=107
c-N=138
c-o 121
c-c=154
these are bond lengths in pm.
so strongest bond is C-H............:)
isn't that for the determination of covalent character of ionic compounds? Fajan's rules I mean
but could u xplian what u meant by small cation . more polarisation??
In CH , H is more electro positive and it is the cation. ( In other C is the cation ).
In this case, H is small compared to C in other cases ..
And by fajans rule, smaller cation = more polarization power and more covalent character .. and covalent is stronger than Ionic right ?
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I'll accept that only under the condition that the cleavage of bondis to be initiated by heating .
"CH bond is definitely more polar than CC .thus undergoes cleavage easier than CC . hope It's clear.-Srinath"
But the discussion was that CH is strongest....thats the answer sky gave as in her soln...
your Fajan's rule seems fine , but could u xplian what u meant by small cation . more polarisation??and why CH seems stronger unable to get ur poinit
CH bond is definitely more polar than CC .thus undergoes cleavage easier than CC . hope It's clear.
You mean CC bond is stronger ?
Also, according to fajans rule, small cation = more polarisation and more covalent... So CH is stronger ..
And in other options, C is cation right ? ( more positive)
ok , atlast I think I've foud a convincing answer.
All these bond dissociation energies that are mentioned refer to breaking of bonds by the action of heat. i.e. thermal cleavage. but , In the reaction medium , more important is the polarity of the bond. CH bond is definitely more polar than CC .thus undergoes cleavage easier than CC . hope It's clear.
aren't we supposed to consideronly single bonds b/w the atoms? I don't think it's fair considering a double bond for one and triple bond for another , bcoz sky's Q asks only for the single bond energy I bleieve. double and triple bonds are obviously stronger.
i also thought the reasons(see my first two posts in this topic) for C-N and C-O bonds it worked gud for C-N but not that gud for C-O...
Oh this is bad about chem. experimental and theoritical beliefs always contradict.
oops , I didn't know that , thankx . I thought bonding b/w like atoms produces the strongest bond.
but I'm abit confused. In Bayer villiger oxdn , it's easier to convert aldehyde to acid than a ketone to an ester . so I thought C-C is more storng.
Srinath just see the general chemistry forum :
Forum » General Chemistry » Some reference datas........
can u xpalin the experimental result that C-H bond energy > C-C so how u r saying C-C is strongest...
This is experimental proof any one got anything thing theoratical........
nodal plane is the plane where probability of finding an electron is zero.
so b and c shouled not bhee answer
2nd part all these are single bond?
No but in NCERT(Chem part II edtn nov 2007,page 293, Example 10.5) also is written C-C bond is more stable than C-N and
for C-O bond the nucleophilcity of CN and OH??
PHEW!!!!!!!! ALL MY FLOP CONCEPTS NOT WORKING....
......btw y dun we go by bond order as nishant bhaiya told???
C-O = 3
C-N=2.5
C-C =2
C-H =0.5
on pauling scale....
Electronegativity diff of
CN = .49
CO= .9
CH= .34
now ..............
most surpringly..........
C-H is most strongest........(the ans given)
i can think of only one explanation for this......i.e. electronegative diff btwn C n H is highest mong the four so more ionic character ....... n so, stronger bong .......
comment.....
I think that should also be true for C-C and C-N bond as -CN is formed more favourably thab -NC> When CN- is present and due to rresonance it can attack via N or C but it generally by C so.......
Also C-N and C-O bond has almost same properties as C=O and C=N has almost same rkns...
So C-C bond strength>C-N
also C-C bond strength>C-O
but don't know about comparison b/w C-O and C-N
for C-H bond i think its weaker because its C-H bond aur jaha thoda acidic H hota ha,i bond toot jata hai.......
We have got only bond orders of molecules having same atom...
but i know one thing C-C bond is stronger than C-O bond thats why CN- is stronger nucleophile than OH- although a weker base than OH-
On a second thought..
why dont u try finding bond order for these ?
I think that could/should help
bond strength should it not depend overlap of atomic orbitals of the bonds?
I think that should help.. but i have not found any answer :(
this is easy but i am bad.