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ATLEAST A HINT PLZZ.....

THIS TYPE HAUNTS ME WER WE USE FUNDAMENTALS OF NUMBERS.....

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Lokesh Verma ·

sorry wrong hint.... :(

:P

I think you will have to take the fdifference ...

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tapanmast Vora ·

sir,
didnt understandhow will taking diff help.......

then how will u introduce the fact that f(x) = 5 has 4 integrL soln??????

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Hari Shankar ·

these kind of problems are well known.

f(x) - 5 = (x-n1) (x-n2)(x-n3)(x-n4) P(x), where P(x) is a polynomial with integer coefficients

If f(n) = 7, then f(n) - 5 = 2 i.e. (n-n1) (n-n2)(n-n3)(n-n4) P(n) = 2

Now the factors of 2 are ±1, ±2. and remember that only one of ±2 can appear on LHS. Also (n-n1), (n-n2), (n-n3), (n-n4) are all distinct. By pigeonhole principle, we must two of the roots equal, but that contradicts the problem condition

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tapanmast Vora ·

COOL APPROACH PROPHET!!!!!!!!

hey prophet jus didnt get dat last bit.........

how did u prove dat 4 polynomial = 7 has 0 zero roots.........

in short didnt get it frm here on,

"remember that only one of ±2 can appear on LHS. Also (n-n1), (n-n2), (n-n3), (n-n4) are all distinct."

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tapanmast Vora ·

i read the pigeonhole principle.... got it...... but how did u apply it to our situation????

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Hari Shankar ·

The numbers 1, -1 and 2 (or -2) are to be assigned to n-n1, n-n2, n-n3 and n-n4. So some two of them will be equal say n-n2 and n-n4. This means n2 = n4. But that is forbidden.

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tapanmast Vora ·

why do you say only one out of
+2 and -2 has to be assigned????

i m sorry if this que sounds a lil dumb....

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Subash ·

hello mr prophet i want to ask you something many terms that you use in your proofs i havent even seen or heard them before

are they really in the jee level please reply

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tapanmast Vora ·

PROPHET SIR!!!!

I M RAELLY SORRY, I DINNO U WER A TARGETIIT NOBLE!!!!

PL. FORGIVE ME.......

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Hari Shankar ·

@tapan, hey no probs man. BTW, even I did not know I was a "noble". what is that?

@subash - it would be better if you gave me specific examples. Now, pigeonhole principle was something I learnt in JEE coaching. Its a basic principle in combinatorics and is just plain common sense with a title! Do learn it, its uses are varied

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tapanmast Vora ·

ur profile reads u as targetIIT noble.

sir i also wanted to know y did u say that only one out of +2/-2 can appear on the LHS??

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Hari Shankar ·

Thats because the product of those integers is 2. So both 2 and -2 cannot appear on LHS

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