KVPY Q. No. 4 (DOUBT)

Consider the cubic equation given by x3+ax2+bx+c = 0 , where a, b, c are real numbers. Which of the following is correct :

A. If a2-2b < 0, then the equation has one real and two imaginary roots

B. If a2-2b ≥ 0, then the equation has all real roots

C. If a2-2b > 0, then the equation has all real and distinct roots

D. If 4a3-27b2 >0 , then the equation has real and distinct roots.

Don't no why but I think that question is somewhere wrong.I may be wrong though.

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Shubhodip ·

NO, its perfectly correct...

f(x)= x^3+ax^2+bx+c, f'(x) = 3x^2 + 2ax + b

discriminant of f'(x) is D=4(a^2 - 3b)

f(x)= 0, ofcourse has one real root,since its a cubic...

If f'(x)≠0 for all real x, then f(x) has no more root.. so we want D<0, i.e a^2 - 3b<0

Note that if a^2 - 2b<0 , b must be >0, so a^2 - 3b<-b<0

so option A is correct..

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sagnik sarkar ·

For 3 real roots necessary and sufficient condition is that:

1) f'(x) should have 2 real roots. ( say a and b)

2) f(a)*f(b) <0.

For 1 real root necessary and sufficient condition is that:

Case 1: f'(x) has 2 real roots and f(a)*f(b) >0

Case 2: f'(x) has no real roots i.e the function is either increasing or decreasing always and thus it must cut x-axis at some pt thus f(x) has 1 root.

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sagnik sarkar ·

@Shubhodip: I could'nt understand ur last argument:
How a^2-3b<0 implies a^2-2b<0 ??

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Vivek @ Born this Way ·

Main bhi last step tak pahucha tha.. Wahi reasoning mein gadbad hui. Khair I have marked A only..

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Vivek @ Born this Way ·

@Sagnik,

a2 < 3b ,for two imaginary roots, Certainly 2b < 3b since b > 0 So, a2<2b will also satisfy the given condition.

@Subhodip.

How was the exam. How much are you expecting.

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sagnik sarkar ·

@ Vivek: What r u saying man!!

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sagnik sarkar ·

Well in my 1st post ignore condition for 1 real root. A cubic eqtn will always have a real root. Sorry for the wrong post..

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Hari Shankar ·

One more way of seeing this is - suppose all three roots are real, then we would have

(r_1+r_2+r_3)^2 \ge 3 (r_1r_2+r_2r_3+r_3r_1)

so that we have a^2 \ge 3 b

So if a^2 \le 2b all three arent real. Since atleast one root is real, there is exactly one real root.

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