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1. Prove that (n!)! is divisible by (n!)^{(n-1)!}.

2. Show that 1!+2!+3!+ \dots + n! cannot be a perfect square for any n \in \mathbb{N}, \: n\geq 4.

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Lokesh Verma ·

The 2nd question can be solved by realizing that for n≥4, the lst digit will be 3 so no perfect square.

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Ashish Kothari ·

Yeah.. I noticed that too now. :) Sir but for n=4, we aren't getting a perfect square..

Sir can we prove the first one from induction?

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Ashish Kothari ·

@pidohbuhs - I got absolutely nothing out of your post. [2]

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Shubhodip ·

1)

We will use two proposition:

1)x\geq 0,y\geq 0, \lfloor{xy}\rfloor\geq \lfloor{x}\rfloor \lfloor{y}\rfloor

2)The exponent of any prime p in n! is given by

ord_p(n!)= \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\left \lfloor{\frac{n}{p^k}} \rfloor

We will be able to prove the fact that (n!)! \mid (n!)^{(n-1)!} if we can prove that

ord_p((n!)!)\geq ord_p((n!)^{(n-1)!})

It's a bit obvious that ord_p((n!)^{(n-1)!})= (n-1)!ord_p(n!)

So we have to prove that \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\lfloor{\frac{n!}{p^k}}\rfloor\geq (n-1)!\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\lfloor{\frac{n}{p^k}}\rfloor

Note that \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\lfloor{\frac{n!}{p^k}}\rfloor= \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\lfloor{\frac{(n-1)!n}{p^k}}\rfloor \geq (n-1)!\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\lfloor\frac{n}{p^k}\rfloor by proposition 1.

So we have proved the statement.

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Shubhodip ·

actually its a very common idea in proving this kind of problems.

like m! n! (m+n)! | (2m)! (2n)!

m! (n!)m| (mn)! etc

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Ashish Kothari ·

I got it thank you.. :)

Nice thought process. :)

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Hari Shankar ·

I like to use the result that the product of n consecutive numbers is divisible by n!

So since (n!)! is composed of (n-1)! sets of n consecutive numbers, the whole product is divisible by (n!)(n-1)!

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Arnab Kundu ·

1.A solution is given in Pre College Maths book.
Consider a situation where n! objects are there. Out of those they are organised in (n-1)! groups each having n objects. All the n objects in each group is identical.
So, no. of permutations of n! objects is \frac{(n!)!}{n!n!...n!}=\frac{(n!)!}{n!^{(n-1)!}}
So, n!(n-1)!| (n!)!

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