A Rotating Sqaure

I have done in rotation a Problem where we put a rotating Disc on horizontal rough platform, find the Average Torque and then solve the equation.
Even the ring one is also easier.

But How do I do it when there is a square since the the limit of integrations will vary (Since Diagonal is longer) if we take the point of rotation at the center or at any corner?

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Lokesh Verma ·

the inner circular part, we can integrate directly

The integral will come out to be slightly dirty.... based on theta... you can find the arc length...

If u get the hint try otherwise i will try to post the solution....

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aditya ravichandran ·

corner should be taken ,as it is point of "Instantenous Rotation"

Can you please post the problem statement ?

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Vivek @ Born this Way ·

@kreyszig

You're misinterpreting what I've asked. Read my doubt atleast 10 times.

@Nishant Sir

"the inner circular part, we can integrate directly"

-> Yes, that is okay But that circular part would not cover ' that extra ' length along the diagonals. Or it would?

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Lokesh Verma ·

@Vivek... I meant that inner part is easy to calculate...

The extra part is one where we have to integrate

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Vivek @ Born this Way ·

Hmm,. Not getting some very great Idea..

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rishabh ·

kindly post a sample prob regarding your query :)

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Vivek @ Born this Way ·

Q: A Square with dimension ' a ' is given an initial angular velocity ' w '. The square can rotate freely about the axis passing through one of its corners. It take time ' t ' to stop completely. Find the time taken to stop if the axis passes through the center of the square plate.

Take mass to be M.

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Debosmit Majumder ·

try to solve it by finding out the MOI about any one of the corners

The answer to your Q shud be = t/4 (if i hvn`t done my calculations wrong)

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Aditya Bhutra ·

i think it should be t/2 as moi about center is double of that from the corner..

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Debosmit Majumder ·

moi about the the centre is Ma2/6
now if u apply the parallel axis theorem then it`l come
= 2Ma2/3
@aditya....check ur answr

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Aditya Bhutra ·

i thought the axis is passing through both the corners.. my mistake.

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raja9253 ·

@ Debosmit: I dont believe that the ans should be t/4. As torque about centre and torque about corner wont be equal.

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Debosmit Majumder ·

yeah it wont,dat`s what i hv written

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Vivek @ Born this Way ·

Everyone is just calculating the MOI and not the total torque that would be acting.

Calculating MOI is not a problem here.

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Debosmit Majumder ·

if the MOI about the corner is 2/3ma2 now since the torque acting is constant we can apply,

w2=w1-\alphat

since w2 is 0.

hence,\alpha=w/t.

now,\Gamma=Ia

we knw I,we can find T.

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Vivek @ Born this Way ·

Uff..

Nishant w.r.t #2, please post the solution.

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