tension

A uniform chain of length L and mass M is hanging vertically from its ends A and B which are close together.At a given instant the ened B is released.Find the tension at A when B has fallen a distance x(<l)

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msp ·

please correct me if i was wrong with my fbd

the orange dot shows the location of the cm of the hanging part

and the small black dots shows the continous distribution of differential mass element.

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msp ·

hey u got the correct ans dats why u r awarded 10 marks

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skygirl ·

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lemme celebrate for 5 mins!!!!!!!!!!1

then i will post the ans in next 5 mins .. [3] [3]

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skygirl ·

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msp ·

hey sky wont the tension will be different at diff points since it is an uniform chain

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Subash ·

what are x1 and x2

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skygirl ·

let at some time 't',

B falls by a distance 'x'.

vel of point B = √2gx. (free fall)

now, ocnsiedr the free body diag of right part...

mg(l/2 - x) downwards n m/L(v2) upwards.

now consider the free body diag of left part ..

T upwards, mg(L/2+x/2)/L downwards and 1/2vdm/dt.

vdm/dt = m/L (v2)

so, T=mgx/L + mg(L/2 + x/2) = mg/2 (3x/L +1) .

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msp ·

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skygirl ·

where is the string not tight ??

it is always tight....

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skygirl ·

see, if the tip B comes down x dist, the lowermost point P comes dwn by x/2 ... jus think physicaly........

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msp ·

can u give the fbd for the strings

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skygirl ·

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msp ·

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skygirl ·

pls rep sooooooooon

mom is angry,,,, telling me to log off......

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skygirl ·

ok i am sorry to draw that diagram(the constraint diag only ).........
its a wrong interpretation...
actually i thot that physically...
n thot how to explain... so drew it...
yup u are correct re... sorry i am wrong...

but are u convinced that dist moved by P
= 1/2 the dist moved by B ??

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msp ·

actually i was confused sky . so far i had seen such relations when a

massless pulley is used ..

clueless sky abt that dist moved by P = 1/2 the dist moved by B

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skygirl ·

see, B is moving x dist down,

there is a curve .... one min i will draw

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skygirl ·

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skygirl ·

is it alr8 wid you now ???

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msp ·

if there any other doubt in this question i will ask u tomorrow
will u come tomorrow..

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msp ·

i am also feeling sleepy shall we start tomorrow...

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skygirl ·

great idea...... i scrapped you [3]...

delete it afetr reading :P :P

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msp ·

ok sky i got the constraint relation

and wat abt the tension. and how to include the variation of the tension along the string..............

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skygirl ·

dun take tension about the tension within the string....

its not needed...

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msp ·

sky i cant get u....

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skygirl ·

yeh bhi not pinked [2] [2] [2] [2]

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Pavithra Ramamoorthy ·

heywhy do u hide these chats

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Philip Calvert ·

[7] why is this thread highlighted
is Mg the correct answer??

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msp ·

philip u r rong

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Lokesh Verma ·

no mg is not the right answer..

and btw this thread should nto be highlighted!

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