roots of eqtn (not for jee)

The equation ax3 +bx2 +cx+d = 0 is known to have three distinct
real roots.

How many real roots are there of the equation

4(ax3 + bx2+ cx + d)(3ax + b) = (3ax2 + 2bx + c)2?

11 Answers

39
Dr.House ·

wats the proof u have got?

341
Hari Shankar ·

why is it not for jee?

39
Dr.House ·

sir i felt so. if it comes very much in syllabus, then no probs. ( and then sorry for the title)

1
archana anand ·

1 positive real root& 3 negative real roots

39
Dr.House ·

4yy''=y'2 thats wrong.

it is 2 yy"=y`2

1
archana anand ·

the equation becomes
3a2x4+6cax2+12dax+4bax3+4db-c3=0
now let this b f(x) in wich der is only 1 sign change so it has only 1 +ve real root........now put f(-x)=der will b 3 sign change so 3 -ve roots.........sorry i posted 2 -ve real roots..........edited

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Celestine preetham ·

this is jee syllabus only b555

take y =ax3 +bx2+cx+d

now take g(x) = y'2-2y"y'
we want g(x) =0

g'(x)=2y'''y =12ay

now minima and maxima of g(x) are at g'(x)=0 ie y=0

moreover at extremum g(x) = y'2 (as y=0) which is >0

also note that g(x) = 3a2x4 + ......... which is positive as x→ ±∞

all these imply curve g(x) is always above x axis ie no real solution for g(x)=0

341
Hari Shankar ·

What I had in mind was:

Let y = ax3+bx2+cx+d. Then the equation can be written as:

2yy" = (y')2

Now y has three distinct roots implies that it does not share any roots with y'. Also it implies that y' has two distinct roots. The possibility we that y' and y" share a root is hence ruled out as that would mean that y' has only one root.

Thus y' has no roots in common with y or y". But the given equation implies that whenever y' = 0 either y = 0 or y" = 0, which is a contradiction and we are done

9
Celestine preetham ·

but prophet sir u ve proved that

2yy" ≠(y')2 only when y or y'' or y" is 0 what abt other cases ???

9
Celestine preetham ·

ie ab =c2 can have roots without needing to have c=0

341
Hari Shankar ·

hmm, looks my head needs examining :D

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