IIT JEE past question Thermodynamics 10

ratio of the speed of sound in nitrogen to helium at 300 K is?

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tapanmast Vora ·

Vn/Vhe = √1/7

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ANKIT MAHATO ·

v = √(γ RT/M)

vN2/vHe = √((7/5)/(5/3)) * √4/28 = √21*4/25*28 =√3/25

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tapanmast Vora ·

arre yeh LAPLACE kaha se aaya ??

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skygirl ·

hmmmmmm.... yeh sahi lag raha hai....... bhaiya ans kya hai ?

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ANKIT MAHATO ·

i saw plenty of answers above me . .but now i see only one brave man standing by his answer . .rest of the posts deleted !!

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tapanmast Vora ·

he he....... No laplace was only crrct not newton!!

So ur ans is rite!!

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tapanmast Vora ·

Hey, I was doubting myself [11]

Sir, can u pl. tell wer are v to use LAPLACE formula : Vsound = γRT/M

coz i did it by : : Vsound = RT/M [7]

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skygirl ·

yes same doubt!

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

Wat is γ for helium and nitrogen?
The data for γ has to be given

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ANKIT MAHATO ·

helium monoatomic -> γ = 5/3
nitrogen diatomic -> γ = 7/5

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

Therefore the speed ratio is
S = √(7*3/5*5
S = (√21)/5
S = 0.916
S = 0.92 is the raio of the speed of nitrogen to helium

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tapanmast Vora ·

sIR, pl confirm this un.....

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voldy ·

we should use laplace's equation only
it's speed of sound na .

v = \sqrt{\frac{\gamma RT}{M}}

we can't use newton's formula as it's experimentally found to be wrong and hence laplace's correction factor must be used

so we get

\frac{v_{N_{2}}}{v_{H_{2}}} = \sqrt{\frac{\gamma _{N_{2}}M_{H_{2}}}{\gamma _{H_{2}}M_{N}_{2}}}

so ans is

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Dr.House ·

well, newton assumed it to be isothermal, and hence the formula he derived was way away from experimental results. laplace suggested travel of sound through gases is a adiabatic process as it occurs very rapidly and hence gave the formula ....(which srinath gave above).

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