Colours again!

Colours in complexes are decided by the constituents of the coordination sphere, right? So why do K4[Fe(CN)6] and Fe2[Fe(CN)6] differ in colour though coordination sphere is intact?

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

Qualitative Analysis of cations, Dude.

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greatvishal swami ·

and also ani can u tell me their colours too

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greatvishal swami ·

ok ani now i m with u

Fe2[Fe(CN)6]=blue

Zn2[Fe(CN)6]=bluish white

Cu2[Fe(CN)6]=chocolate brown

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

Thanx, Vishal :)

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Pavithra Ramamoorthy ·

i kno dat Zn is bluish wit in color......
but wat abt d complex...

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

Ram, TR maari pesadha

Complex only is bluish white in colour

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Pavithra Ramamoorthy ·

wat abt d other one?????

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

Vishal is correct. These are products obtained in qualitative analysis of cations.

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

Any ideas now anyone?

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msp ·

Anybody can summary ur discussion for me so that i can join with u guys

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

Pandi, read the entire thread for full understanding of what's going on!

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Mallika ·

@ Ramkumar .. u go on tlking abt cash prizes only ! 1 Lac yaad hai ? :P

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Pavithra Ramamoorthy ·

@mallika..
this s not reward dear.................

fine.............see that.......

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

k, Bright ideas anyone?

@ Ram :
Mokka podardha niruthu da. Threadda perissakunadhu podhum!

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msp ·

colours in a coordination cpd is depend on the oxdn state of the central metal ion. So this might be the reason for ur doubt

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Pavithra Ramamoorthy ·

I ll kill u guyz............

i was sayin dis fr a lon time.................

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

No one said u were wrong, Ram. But the central metal ion is the same in both the complexes. So why the colour difference, Pandian?

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greatvishal swami ·

now finally acc to me the ans is

exeptions r there in chemistry

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

Reason fr exception?

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Sunil Kumar ·

Aragorn........
the colors of the complexes too depend upon the oxidation state of the metal ion.
the color of the complex is due to the splitting of the d-orbital......
and the this splitting increases with increase in the oxidation number of the metal ion......
if now also it is not clear then tell i'll give the full description........

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Pavithra Ramamoorthy ·

hey ani... cant give reasons for dat.. dats y its exceptional.............

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

Hold on, Sunil. Oxidation state of central metal atom right?

So in both complexes, central metal atom is Fe in +2 state. So why colour change?

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Abhishek Priyam ·

Fe2+ will form another complex with water so there are two complexes in the solution so the color is the sum of two colors due to two different complexes..

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Or see my first page post

Situation is symmetric about Fe, whichever Fe is inside coordination sphere theres no difference, so Might be there actual structure will be different as 3 Fe might be changing there positions ( as it increases entropy so favorable :P) so theres the difference... :P

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greatvishal swami ·

@ram thanks dude

@ani i m still wth u

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Abhishek Priyam ·

Don't laugh at my second Reply:D

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

Don't worry Abhi we won't.[13]

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Sunil Kumar ·

No not the central metal ion but the oxidation state of the metal ion outside the coordination sphere.......
Let me explain :-
Like [Cr(H2O)6]2+ and [Cr(H2O)6]3+
both have different colour....
Former has blue colour while the later has violet-blue-gey colour.
Understood......
This all depend upon the oxidation state of the metal ion outside the coordination sphere..
Ur question has the same case.......

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

In your example above, the coordination sphere is diff so colour is diff while in my q the coordination sphere is the same but still colour is diff

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Abhishek Priyam ·

Noo

Here Oxdn state of Cr is different..

***Edited***Aragorn and I replied at same time :P

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