FULL THROTTLE

let a1,a2,a3 be a sequence of real no.s such dat an+1 = an + (an^2 + 1)^1/2 then LIM n-> ∞ (an/2n-1) is

1. 1
2. 0
3. -1
4. 2

42 Answers

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°ღ•๓яυΠ·

hadh hai yaar.........

tune toh tukke marne bhi ni diye :((

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Mani Pal Singh ·

SKY JI KOI DIFFERENCE NAHIN HAI
BAS a0=0 WAS MISSED BY DEEPANSHU

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skygirl ·

nahi yaar....

in deepanshu's expression, a(n+1) is in the right hand side also...

but in prophet bhaiya's eqn, it is only in the left hand side.

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tapanmast Vora ·

prophet sir's expression hi crrct hai

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deepanshu001 agarwal ·

a grave sry ......

i hav edited it......

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Mani Pal Singh ·

K
AB QUESTION KE BAARE MEIN KYA KHYAL HAI
LETS SOLVE IT TOGETHER AS I AM UNABLE O SOLVE IT BY MY OWN

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skygirl ·

okie.. thanx for confirming deepansh..

but shud tell u..

i wasted 7-8 mins of my life [3] thinking of way to separate a[n-1] and a[n] [2]

neways its ok :)

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deepanshu001 agarwal ·

i hold my ears for that sky......:p

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MATRIX ·

hmmmmm........[12][12][12]...........

1
°ღ•๓яυΠ·

woh bajumein tune options likhe hai kya jara barabar likh diyo ...

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deepanshu001 agarwal ·

the ans is 1...if ny 1 getz it plzz post the soln....2

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skygirl ·

prophet bhaiya... the one u latexed and the question by deep.. are diff naa... those a[n] terms.... plz confirm...

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deepanshu001 agarwal ·

kya karoon is ques ne meri jaan leli

i m 2 desperate 2 noe the soln.....

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Hari Shankar ·

Time for a hint:Subash had almost hit upon it.

let a_k = \cot \theta

Express ak+1 too in terms of cot

341
Hari Shankar ·

ok deepansh shouldnt be made to wait long.

When we make the substitution mentioned in the previous post, we get
a_{k+1} = a_k + \sqrt{1+a_k^2} = \cot \theta + \csc \theta = \frac{1+\cos \theta}{\sin \theta} \\ \\ = \cot \left(\frac{\theta}{2} \right)

Can you take it from here?

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deepanshu001 agarwal ·

i got ak+1 - ak = cosec(theta)

then...???
basically i m tryin to apply Vn - Vn-1 method

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Hari Shankar ·

No already have it in front of you.

If a_k = \cot \theta , a_{k+1} = \cot \left( \frac{\theta}{2} \right)

That means if a_{0} = \cot \theta_0 we have

a_{1} = \cot \left(\frac{\theta_0}{2} \right, a_2 = \cot \left(\frac{\theta_0}{4} \right),...., a_k = \cot \left(\frac{\theta_0}{2^k} \right),...

So we have \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \frac{a_n}{2^{n-1}} = \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \frac{1}{2^{n-1}} \cot \left(\frac{\theta_0}{2^n} \right) = \frac{2}{\theta_0}

Here \theta_0 = \frac{\pi}{2}. So the limit is \frac{4} {\pi}

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Subash ·

thanks sir i was trying in vain with tan couldnt get anything :)

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deepanshu001 agarwal ·

sir i m sry but the fiitjee guys hav given is 1...

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Hari Shankar ·

4/pi is correct dont worry. they would have missed some coefficient while copy-pasting

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Philip Calvert ·

yes 1 is wrong .. cuz i had calculated the limit in a very reliable way to get

1.273239544735163

didnt want to post only the answer to spoil the question as i was also thinking about the method ..

4 / pi should come to be almost that no. above (why almost ? well, bcoz my method was not as reliable as the mathematical one....)

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Mani Pal Singh ·

SIR JAISE AAP KAHEIN[1]

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Mani Pal Singh ·

yes i also wonder the same

lets think[12][12][12][12]

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Subash ·

im not getting anything

but i feel an=tanθn would work

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deepanshu001 agarwal ·

tried dat as my 1st approach didnt wrk out

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deepanshu001 agarwal ·

tried dat as my 1st approach didnt wrk out

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Hari Shankar ·

This is a very nice problem [ok I am partial to this coz i got very excited when the crux idea for the solution hit me!]. It is worth spending some time over it

Let me latex it for the members (also adding a condition missed by deepansh:

Given a_0 = 0 and the recursive relation a_n = a_{n-1} + \sqrt{1+a_{n-1}^2}, find \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \frac{a_n}{2^{n-1}}

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Hari Shankar ·

also if someone has seen this already [includes teachers and students] please let the students try it out for a while before jumping in with hints/solutions

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Mani Pal Singh ·

sir ji thoda ruk jao
think karne mein time lagta hai[3]

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Hari Shankar ·

haan haan take your time. You will learn something here

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