Appl of deri

Let f'(sinx)<0 and f"(sinx)>0, for all x belonging to (0,pi/2) and g(x)=f(sinx)+f(cosx) then..

a) g(x) is increasing in x ε (0,pi/4)
b) g(x) is increasing in x ε (pi/4,pi/2)
c) g(x) decreases in (0,pi/4)
d) g(x) is increasing in x ε (0,pi/2)

(More than one correct..)

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35 Answers

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Hari Shankar ·

you are right. I have edited it in the post now.

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tapanmast Vora ·

case 2 mein dbt

how can u say this -A + B < 0

as cosx > sinx , then accordingly f(cosx) aur f(sinx) bhi to change hoga.... [7]

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Abhishek Priyam ·

Kuch kuch ho gaya..

f(cosx)<f(sin(x)) for 0,pi/4

f(sinx)<f(cos(x)) for pi/4,pi/2

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Abhishek Priyam ·

sab bikhara hua hai yaha par... suru se banate hain.. :P

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tapanmast Vora ·

yeh priyam, that was precisely wat i was hintin at in #5 Posted

1
skygirl ·

:)

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Abhishek Priyam ·

huh!!

that was easy...

red is f(cosx)
black is f(sinx)

also g(x) is symmetric about pi/4

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Hari Shankar ·

g(x) = f(sin x) + f(cos x)

g'(x) = f'(sin x) cos x - f'(cos x) sin x

Let h(x) = f(sinx)

h'(x) = f'(sin x) cos x

h"(x) = -f'(sinx) sin x +f"(sin x) cos x>0 (from the given conditions)

That means the function H(x) = h'(x) = f'(sinx) cos x is an increasing function in x.

Now H(Ï€/2 -x) = f'(cos x) sin x

So g'(x) = H(x) - H(Ï€/2 -x)

When x ε [0, π/4), π/2 -x>x so that H(π/2 -x)>H(x) so that g'(x)<0 in this interval

In the same way g'(x)>0 in (π/4, π/2]

[edited typo pointed out by tapan]

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tapanmast Vora ·

h'(x) = f'(sin x) cos x

h"(x) = -f'(x) sin x +f"(x) cos x>0

frm wer did the bold "x" come shud it not be sinx???

pl. forgive me if i am wrong

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Abhishek Priyam ·

f'(cosx)<0 only...

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tapanmast Vora ·

OHKKKK.....

GOT IT!!! WAT A WONDERFUL SOLTN....

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rkrish ·

Can we solve this ques this way.....??

g(x) = f(sin x) + f(cos x)
--> g '(x) = (cos x) f '(sin x) - (sin x) f '(cos x)
--> g ''(x) = - (sin x) f'(sin x) - (cos x) f '(cos x) + (cos2x) f ''(sin x) + (sin2x) f ''(cos x)

g(0) = g(pi/2) = f(0) + f(1)
Applying Rolle's Thrm,
for g '(c)=0 , we get c=pi/4
Also, g ''(pi/4) > 0. Therefore , we have minima at pi/4.

Thus we can say that
g(x) is decreasing in (0,pi/4)
& g(x) is increasing in (pi/4,pi/2)

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tapanmast Vora ·

hmmmm ya I found no prob with this methhod..... nice way of thinkin!!![1]

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Lokesh Verma ·

but how does this prove that there are no other maximas and minimas

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tapanmast Vora ·

point!!

par agar g'(c) = 0 for only 1value of c b/w 0 to pi/2 then it wud mean that ther are no other max-min.....

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tapanmast Vora ·

Sir, pl. correct me if i'm wrong.....

I wanted to get this prob solvin tekniqu of rish confirmed by you as I feel its a nice way of thinkin in this inc/dec.ing function type sums....

pl. help

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Abhishek Priyam ·

isme bhi...
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341
Hari Shankar ·

@rkrish: Not really. Having a minima at π/4, only tells us the behaviour of the function in a small neighbourhood of π/4.

We are asked to deduce a stronger result in the interval.

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tapanmast Vora ·

LOL ....... [4] [4][4]

wen theprocessing finishes and if u get an output pl. mention!!!

the queston will be depndent on

f'(sinx)/f'(cosx) >/< = tanx

u gotta adjust the signs as per division by -ve no.....

I m still [12] [12]

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Dr.House ·

priyam see if this helps.............

if p(x) and q(x) are two functions and r(x)=p(x)+q(x)

then r(x) is incrasing only when both p and q are either increasing or decreasing

r(x) ia decreasing if one of them is decreasing and other is increasing

[sorry if u already knew this]

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tapanmast Vora ·

thnx 4 da info!!

but over here it wud be a case like : r(x) = f(p(x)) + g(q(x));

so it wil cahnge na.... WAT SAY??

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tapanmast Vora ·

are these observation correct?

f(x) is dec thruout its range.....
f'(x) is inc thruout its range.....

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skygirl ·

g'(x) = cosx f'(sinx) - sinxf'(cosx)

f(cosx) = f(sin(Î /2-x)) [tx priyam [1]]

=> f'(sinx) = -f'(cosx)

=>f'(cosx) = -f'(sinx) >0

g'(x) = cosx f'(sinx) - sinxf'(cosx)

=> g'(x) = f'(sinx)(cosx - sinx)

ab...

cosx-sinx >0 for 0,pi/4 but f'(sinx)<0

=> g'(x) <0 for 0 to pi/4

and for pi/4 to pi/2 , cosx-sinx < 0 and f'(sinx)<0

so g'(x) >0

so b and c..

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Abhishek Priyam ·

f'(sinx) = -f'(cosx) [7]

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Abhishek Priyam ·

:(

kaise hua ye ...

mujhe samjh me nahi aya.. :(

1
skygirl ·

mereko bhi :(

soch rahi hun...

processing.... beep beep....

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Abhishek Priyam ·

[3][12][7][2]

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tapanmast Vora ·

inerestin!!!!

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Abhishek Priyam ·

g'(x) = cosx f'(sinx) - sinxf'(cosx)

f(cosx) = f(sin(Î /2-x))

=> f'(sinx) = -f'(cosx) ....... this line [7]

=>f'(cosx) = -f'(sinx) >0 .... (correct:f'(cosx)<0)

g'(x) = cosx f'(sinx) - sinxf'(cosx)

=> g'(x) = f'(sinx)(cosx - sinx).... *

...........
..........

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Lokesh Verma ·

oops sorry i din see closely that step :(

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