What if?

In the definition of conics the fixed pt doesn't lie on the directrix but what will be the geometric figures if the fixed pt lie on the directrix for different cases i.e.
1) e<1
2) e=0
c)e=1
d)e>1

16 Answers

62
Lokesh Verma ·

interesting :)

good question :)

33
Abhishek Priyam ·

Nobody........

1
Kumar Saurabh ·

e<1 - point

=0 - point

e=1 - whole plane

e>1 empty set

33
Abhishek Priyam ·

Not all correct

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Kumar Saurabh ·

e<1 empty set
e=1 i have doubt.

is the other two wrong?

33
Abhishek Priyam ·

e<1 is correct rest see again...

1
Kumar Saurabh ·

e=0 empty set.. this is easy.. i make mistake

1
Kumar Saurabh ·

e=1 .. staright line perpendicular to this line.. i again make mistake.. but dont know if this answer again is mistake :))

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Abhishek Priyam ·

for e=1 perpendicular line is correct but......... except point F

1
Kumar Saurabh ·

ok ok.. yes...

1
Kumar Saurabh ·

e>1 all points but not this two perpenducular

1
Kumar Saurabh ·

last part best..

dont know if i get correct answer

33
Abhishek Priyam ·

last question:
yes correct ,it will capture all point except perpendicular and pt F for different values of e.

but for a given value of e it will give pair of lines passing through F inclined at an angle sin-1(1/e) with given line and leaving the fixed point.

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voldy ·

Let the point be P , focus S , and point on the fixed line M .

case 1) e<1 w.k.t PS / PM = e
PS =e PM
< PM , but PM is zero . as dist can't be -ve . NULL set.

case 2) e>1
PS > PM , true for all points in the plane. as PM =0

Is my argument correct? unable to understand nor am I getting anywhere to solving for the other two.

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Lokesh Verma ·

no srinath.. there is a slight mistake...

If i said x>y

and i said x=ky (k>1)
(In the question k is fixed..... not that k can take any value)

does the 2nd statement imply the first? no it does not..

Just look into the 2nd one.. i guess u will get a better solution! (a more refined one!)

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Lokesh Verma ·

See srinath the reason why you are getting confused is that e<1 is given...

Now you should only take e as a fixed e.. but less than 1...

So e will not span all values less than 1.. but it will be some constant value (which is fixed)...

What you have done is taken the union over all e's <1 .

So your answer is more or less the union of all possibilities :)

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