hard inequality question

try to prove the following inequality
given that a,b,c are positive reals

Cyclic[(a^2) / {b(a + 2b)}] >= 1

a harddddddddddddddddd problem

not at all easy unless u guys know Cauchy Schwarz inequality

15 Answers

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Celestine preetham ·

minima is at a=b=c

eq comes to 1

1
Rohan Ghosh ·

u have to prove that

9
Celestine preetham ·

yes i know
i stated a theorem which i found wile prep for rmo
when i posted it it got deleted
ill repost

it states that for any cyclic func max or min occurs wen all parameters are equal. it follows from symettry and i ve a big logical proof for that
im not letting it out till i do a phd on that;)

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Rohan Ghosh ·

but then for now u have to solve without it ..

9
Celestine preetham ·

k ill try
i personally lost interest in solving thes types of inequalities after i found that theorem . why try doin the hard way using proofs that cauchy swarchz or wathever others used wen u have law of symmetry

341
Hari Shankar ·

I have a bit of a convoluted proof:

We have to prove that Σcyc a2/(ab+2b2) ≥1

If we let x = b/a, y = c/b and z = a/c, the inequality becomes:

Σcyc 1/(2x2+2x) ≥ 1 with xyz=1

Now for one more round of substitution,

Let x = pq/r2, y = qr/p2, z = rp/q2

Then we have to prove that

Σcyc r4/(2p2q2+pqr2) ≥1

This is where Cauchy Schwarz comes in:

Σcyc r4/(2p2q2+pqr2) ≥ (p2+q2+r2)2 /(2Σp2q2+Σpqr2) from Cauchy Schwarz ( in the form popularly known as Titu's lemma)

Now, if we prove that (p2+q2+r2)2 /(2Σp2q2+Σpqr2) ≥1, we are through

This is equivalent to proving that

(p2+q2+r2)2 ≥2Σp2q2+Σpqr2

or

Σp4 + 2Σp2q2 ≥2Σp2q2+Σpqr2

or Σp4 ≥ Σpqr2

which is true by Rearrangement Inequality or Muirhead as (4,0,0) majorizes (2,1,1)

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Hari Shankar ·

Of course, the last inequality has a solution by AM-GM too (as indicated by a Muirhead solution)

We have the following inequalities by AM-GM,

p4+q4+r4+r4 ≥ 4 pqr2.........1

p4+q4+q4+r4 ≥ 4 pq2r..........2

p4+p4+q4+r4 ≥ 4p2qr...........3

Adding 1,2 and 3, we get

4(p4+q4+r4) ≥ 4(pqr2+pq2r+p2qr) or

Σp4 ≥ Σpqr2 which is the required inequality

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Hari Shankar ·

any response? right or wrong?

any better method?

1
Rohan Ghosh ·

It is right ..
good work .

1
Rohan Ghosh ·

one writing mistake u have made

it should be 2x2+x

1
Rohan Ghosh ·

cud u explain titu's lemma

never heard of it before :(

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Hari Shankar ·

See, from Cauchy Schwarz we get

(x1+x2+....+xn) (a12/x1+a22/x2+...+an2/xn) ≥ (a1+a2+...+an)2

The same is written in a more amenable form as:

a12/x1+a22/x2+...+an2/xn ≥ (a1+a2+...+an)2/(x1+x2+...+xn)

where the xi's are all positive

This is known as Titu's Lemma as it was popularised by Titu Andreescu.

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Rohan Ghosh ·

ok thanks

1
Rohan Ghosh ·

ok i think i have a better proof

you see lets take the first term

i.e

a2/b(a+2b)

=>

1/((b/a)+2(b/a)2)

take b/a=A c/b=B , a/c=C

then we need to prove

Σ1/2A2+A>=1

with ABC=1

now put 1/A=x,1/B=y,1/C=z

then we get to prove

Σx2/(x+2)>=1

with xyz=1;

byt titu's lemma

the above >= (x+y+z)2/((x+y+z)+6)

but as x+y+z>3(xyz)1/3>=3 (by A.M>G.M)

let x+y+z=t

we need to prove

t2 - t - 6>=0

that is proved as t>=3..

341
Hari Shankar ·

fantastic!

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